Wednesday, June 22, 2005

Secularists Fearing Theocracy

Ed Veith, posting this morning over at World Magazine Blog, makes an interesting point concerning the growing but irrational fear secularists have about Christian conservatives trying to impose a theocracy on our country. Veith writes . . . "What gains have Christians made that leads secularists to think a theocracy is imminent? That Christians are crusading against abortion and homosexuality, though with hardly any success? A few decades ago, when abortion was against the law and homosexuality was assumed by all sides to be immoral, was that a theocracy?"

In another post earlier today, Veith shares an example of "atheist activism," a movement filmmaker Brian Flemming hopes will counter religious influence in American politics. Flemming, a "Christian fundamentalist turned atheist," tells Newsweek, "I think that the United States is heading in the direction of theocracy. The problem is that we let religious people say stunningly false things and we consider it rude to question those beliefs. But we should be shunning those people." To do his part for the movement and to spread his version of the truth, Flemming has released a film titled The God Who Wasn't There, which makes the case that Jesus Christ never existed. Would Brian think it rude of us Christians to question his stunningly false assertion in his film? Or should we just shun him?


At Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:30:00 PM, Anonymous Alex Samuels said...

All I can say is: "Christian Theocrats" beware, Brian "Bat Boy" Flemming is coming to the defense of atheism. Many atheist probably wish that when it comes to defending atheism that "Brian Wasn't There."

At Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:52:00 PM, Blogger Roch101 said...

"Irrational fear?" Maybe not.

At Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:36:00 PM, Blogger Mickey McLean said...

Yes, Roch, it is an irrational fear. Judge Albright affirming a long-standing North Carolina law does not point to us becoming a theocracy. Unless you think we've been living under one for quite some time now.

Christians do not desire a theocracy. Ours is not an earthly kingdom to strive for.

At Friday, June 24, 2005 8:11:00 PM, Anonymous Joel Gillespie said...

Yes, this is an irrational fear Roch, and a trumped up one, trumped up by liberal folk to agitate and motivate their base. Conservatives do the same things in terms of expressing irrational fears to motivate their base. It’s called politics. OK, there are some out there lunatic fringe people on the right, as on the left, and who knows what they might do in the event they pulled off a coup. But these people won't ever control anything, or get elected. You have to remember Roch that a great number of the Christian people who came here in the first place came to escape the tyranny of established Christian governments. The very vast majority of us Christians have no more stomach for a Pat Robertson led government or a theonomist (look it up) government than you do! The "theocracy" word is getting thrown around way too much, and to cite the case you did as an example of the rationality of fears of a theocracy is a little, well, tepid. That judge was following NC law regarding the use of the “Holy Scriptures” as basis of oaths, a law I disagree with and wish to see changed by our legislature (you can't have judges in every county writing their own laws.) Anyway, look, evangelical Christians are a minority, and the vast majority of that minority wants no part of a theocracy, or anything like it. We want a secular state that protects the rights of all its citizens, including by the way its Christian ones.


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